29 Jun 2014
Dear Phyllis,
Last week Paul told me news that is as big a shock as I have had in a long time. He said that Bill Gothard had quit his position over charges of a sexual scandal. I couldn't believe that report was true until I looked it up on Google Friday night. Unbelievable!
In the 1960s and 70s, Bill Gothard was the biggest phenomenon in America. At his peak he was credited as having a far greater impact for the Kingdom of God than Billy Graham. I think that was an understatement. Bill Gothard's Basic Youth Conflicts seminars were the biggest news in Christian circles in America. I first heard of them in 1969 when missionaries who had been to a seminar came to Japan raving about them. When Rosemary showed up in Japan in 1970, she said she would marry me only on the condition that I would attend a Basic Youth Conflicts seminar. I had heard so much about them, of course, I wanted to go, and it was no problem to promise that I would attend. That opportunity came in 1972 after Dave was born, and we were able to attend a seminar in Philadelphia. Indeed, I was impressed. It cost five days and $50 dollars to attend, but thousands were lined up trying to get in. The auditorium where our seminar was held had a capacity of 5,000, and it was a phenomenon just to be there. People from every spiritual spectrum in America sat side by side enthusiastically drinking it in. Rank ultra-conservatives and wako charismatics shook hands and totally agreed with what Gothard was presenting. The first session was an evening meeting beginning at 6:00PM. Bill Gothard was as unimpressive a speaker as I had ever heard. There was nothing dramatic in anything he said. He was totally conversational; almost boring. He had only got started and had spoken for a few minutes when he looked at his watch and said, “I guess that is enough for tonight.” I thought what is he doing quitting now? I thought we were going to have a meeting tonight”. I looked at my watch and was stunned to see it was 9:00 o'clock. He had been speaking for three hours and I thought it was only a few minutes. And you really couldn't argue with anything he said. His entire thesis was solidly scriptural, but he held up obvious scriptural truths in such a way that you wondered why you had never heard this before. After listening to him for five days, fundamentally I agreed with nearly all of what he said. It was like fresh air in the room.
Bill Gothards was a gifted, highly committed, young Christian man who had been the youth pastor of a church in Chicago. He had led a number of young people to Christ but noticed that the retention rate was inexplicably low. To solve that problem he did some deep research of current youth problems and the Bible answer. He developed some very eyeopening material. He presented this to a group of Christian business men and got an overwhelming response. From there on his seminars just exploded. He was giving probably 20 seminars a years in major cities all over America. It was such a status symbol that a person felt embarrassed if they hadn't attended a Basic Youth Conflicts seminar. He was reaching millions. The impressive thing was not his popularity but the oblivious life-transforming effect he was having on a huge number of rebellious, defiant, Christian children. I personally know of numerous cases of friends whose sons got straightened out at a Gothard seminar. It was almost assumed that if you went to one your life would be different.
I thought this guy has got to be the holiest man out of heaven. He was a man of tremendous personal discipline who taught, and personally maintained, a very high moral standard. Bill never married, but was unquestionably accepted as a world authority on raising Children and and child discipline. All He said made lot of sense. Basically I followed his teaching in raising our two boys and felt I did a very good job.
If you would summarize his message by one word it probably was authority. His basic thesis was the vertical structure taught in the Bible. He said that God has so constructed society that we were supposed to obey those over us. Children were to obey parents; wives were to obey husbands, employees were to obey employers, citizens were to obey the law,, missionaries were to obey mission boards, etc. He had some terrific testimonies and illustrations to back up every point. As a basically defiant, independent, man most of this went against my nature and practices. If what he said about God's vertical stricture in society was true, then I had to reluctantly agree that his message was correct. When people obey the Bible, wonderful results came out of it. The only thing that I took issue with was his message on how to handle forgiveness. Bill was an artist and drew a lot of pictures. He had an easel on the platform and drew a picture frame on a blank sheet of paper. Then he asked, “Whose picture do you see on that paper? The person you see is the person you need to apologize to.” Then he gave a phrase of words you were supposed to say. It sounded good. But I didn't see anyone. Three months later I was at the Ben Lipper Bible conference in Asheville, NC and saw a lay I knew from Japan. Immediately her picture appeared in my mind. It was awful. I was in agony. The next day I drove 120 miles to apologize to that sister and said what I was supposed to say. We both were embarrassed. She obviously had been to a seminar and knew the line as well as I did. Forty years later I strongly feel what I did was a mistake. Another friend of mine had seriously wounded a girl five years previous;y. After he went to a seminar he went to the girl to apologize and only made the problem considerably worse.
But Bill Gothard was terrific. The only serious criticism I heard about him was that he had an almost cult like group of followers. In many many churches across America there were little groups of Gothardites. There was one in Rosemary's home church, the Burley Bible Church. I liked those folks. They were first-class Christians but they were pretty strong about talking everything Bill Gothard. In one sense you couldn't blame them. Basically I agreed with them but thought it would have been better to leave Bill Gothard out of the picture. He had a terrific impact on Boris Yeltsin who was PM of Russia. Yeltsin invited him to come to Russia and teach Russian officials about character building principles. Over the years he changed the name of his program from Basic Youth Conflicts to the Institute of Basic Life Principles (IBLP). Bill Gothard has been teaching his message for over 50 years and has centers all over the world.
I have heard criticism against him over the years but in most things they seemed to lack scriptural foundation. When Paul told me that he was charged with sexual misconduct I thought, “Great day! He mus be my age”. I was right. He is just a few month solder than me. But when I checked this out on Internet Friday night it was unbelievable. There are at least 34 women who have come forward to tell their stories of being sexual harassed by Gothard. He had to admit these charges were true and wrote a letter of confession and apology, and posted it on his website. The IBLP board of director called it disgusting. They might have used a stronger term. When I read that statement I too thought it was abdominal. It was only half true at best, and self-excusing. I find it hard to believe how a man of Bill Gothard's spiritual stature could write such a disgusting statement.
As stunned as I am over this scandal, it only confirms a principle I have long believed. I have long believed principles will not save you. Only Jesus can save. I heard of a Navigator missionary in Italy who was being harassed by unclean thoughts at night. To stop this, he developed and effective method of going through every room in his heart every night before going to sleep, and give the keys to every room to Jesus. He said by doing this, it stopped those bad thoughts. I thought, “Great, let's do it”. But I didn't find it 100% effective. When I first went to Karuizawa as a missionary I began having problem like I had never experienced in my life. My mind would be perfectly clear, but every night, the moment my head hit the pillow in bed it was just like X rated videos came on. Man, I mean to tell you they were real. I spoke to Joe Carroll about it, and he gave me some excellent advice. He said, “First of all, don't let the devil throw mud at you and them call you dirty.” Then we went on, “You don't have to put up with that. Simply speak to the devil and tell him to get out.” Great!!! The next night I tried it. The instant my head hit the pillow the video cam on. In an audible voice I said, “You filthy thing, in the Name of Jesus I command you to get out of here.” Bamb! The video quit. The next night I did the same thing. Bamb; that turned it off. But then ten minutes later it came back on again. Night after night the battle went on. After a few weeks it was like I had my finger on the Off switch and the devil had his finger on the On switch. One time I saw the sun come up the next morning as I had been fighting with the devil all night.
When I read the tragic story of what happened to him, it makes me bewildered of why he should go down and I have been preserved from plunging to the deaths he fell to. I make no pretense of being totally victorious. I blush over the embarrassing struggles I have had over the years. I know proper principles but I have violated nearly all of them. In my travels around the Orient in the past 16 years I have been in some of the most harrowing situations and been the target of sexual predictors that are blood-chilling. How I could lay in the lap of such temptations and still come out clean is a bewilderment to angels and a disgrace to the devil. The ONLY expatriation of why I have come out marginally clean is JESUS. I certainly have not kept my garment clean by living by principles.
Another possible explanation is that Bill Gothard was a very high profile target. The Lord has told us that there is corresponding responsibility with high position. Teachers will have the greater judgment (Jm.3:1).
Bill Gothard certainly has been a very big man for 50 years. His contribution and impact on the Body of Christ was major. Millions have been greatly helped by him. Tens of thousands owe their salvation to him. His message was outstanding. There certainly is nothing wrong with the message of teaching basic principles of Christian living. There is nothing wrong with teaching someone that they should have devotions every day. There is nothing wrong with the message that we shroud be sensitive about seeking forgiveness and giving forgiveness I thought his instruction on raising Children and finances was excellent. The Body of Christ is greatly indebted to him for his message and teaching.
But teaching right and wrong will do nothing to equip a person to be a more righteous. The world has no other answer and must rely on this theory for improvement. Millions have proven that knowing there is poison in the bottle will keep a person from drinking. The government has spent untold millions on anti-tobacco ads, but people still smoke. Perhaps the greatest message Bill Gothard has given us and his legacy is that he has demonstrated that knowing the principle of Christian living will not save a person from living a hidden life of sin. Only Jesus saves. But I wonder if anyone is listening.
Miraculously still saved by the amazing grace of Jesus,
bill
Dear Phyllis,
Last week Paul told me news that is as big a shock as I have had in a long time. He said that Bill Gothard had quit his position over charges of a sexual scandal. I couldn't believe that report was true until I looked it up on Google Friday night. Unbelievable!
In the 1960s and 70s, Bill Gothard was the biggest phenomenon in America. At his peak he was credited as having a far greater impact for the Kingdom of God than Billy Graham. I think that was an understatement. Bill Gothard's Basic Youth Conflicts seminars were the biggest news in Christian circles in America. I first heard of them in 1969 when missionaries who had been to a seminar came to Japan raving about them. When Rosemary showed up in Japan in 1970, she said she would marry me only on the condition that I would attend a Basic Youth Conflicts seminar. I had heard so much about them, of course, I wanted to go, and it was no problem to promise that I would attend. That opportunity came in 1972 after Dave was born, and we were able to attend a seminar in Philadelphia. Indeed, I was impressed. It cost five days and $50 dollars to attend, but thousands were lined up trying to get in. The auditorium where our seminar was held had a capacity of 5,000, and it was a phenomenon just to be there. People from every spiritual spectrum in America sat side by side enthusiastically drinking it in. Rank ultra-conservatives and wako charismatics shook hands and totally agreed with what Gothard was presenting. The first session was an evening meeting beginning at 6:00PM. Bill Gothard was as unimpressive a speaker as I had ever heard. There was nothing dramatic in anything he said. He was totally conversational; almost boring. He had only got started and had spoken for a few minutes when he looked at his watch and said, “I guess that is enough for tonight.” I thought what is he doing quitting now? I thought we were going to have a meeting tonight”. I looked at my watch and was stunned to see it was 9:00 o'clock. He had been speaking for three hours and I thought it was only a few minutes. And you really couldn't argue with anything he said. His entire thesis was solidly scriptural, but he held up obvious scriptural truths in such a way that you wondered why you had never heard this before. After listening to him for five days, fundamentally I agreed with nearly all of what he said. It was like fresh air in the room.
Bill Gothards was a gifted, highly committed, young Christian man who had been the youth pastor of a church in Chicago. He had led a number of young people to Christ but noticed that the retention rate was inexplicably low. To solve that problem he did some deep research of current youth problems and the Bible answer. He developed some very eyeopening material. He presented this to a group of Christian business men and got an overwhelming response. From there on his seminars just exploded. He was giving probably 20 seminars a years in major cities all over America. It was such a status symbol that a person felt embarrassed if they hadn't attended a Basic Youth Conflicts seminar. He was reaching millions. The impressive thing was not his popularity but the oblivious life-transforming effect he was having on a huge number of rebellious, defiant, Christian children. I personally know of numerous cases of friends whose sons got straightened out at a Gothard seminar. It was almost assumed that if you went to one your life would be different.
I thought this guy has got to be the holiest man out of heaven. He was a man of tremendous personal discipline who taught, and personally maintained, a very high moral standard. Bill never married, but was unquestionably accepted as a world authority on raising Children and and child discipline. All He said made lot of sense. Basically I followed his teaching in raising our two boys and felt I did a very good job.
If you would summarize his message by one word it probably was authority. His basic thesis was the vertical structure taught in the Bible. He said that God has so constructed society that we were supposed to obey those over us. Children were to obey parents; wives were to obey husbands, employees were to obey employers, citizens were to obey the law,, missionaries were to obey mission boards, etc. He had some terrific testimonies and illustrations to back up every point. As a basically defiant, independent, man most of this went against my nature and practices. If what he said about God's vertical stricture in society was true, then I had to reluctantly agree that his message was correct. When people obey the Bible, wonderful results came out of it. The only thing that I took issue with was his message on how to handle forgiveness. Bill was an artist and drew a lot of pictures. He had an easel on the platform and drew a picture frame on a blank sheet of paper. Then he asked, “Whose picture do you see on that paper? The person you see is the person you need to apologize to.” Then he gave a phrase of words you were supposed to say. It sounded good. But I didn't see anyone. Three months later I was at the Ben Lipper Bible conference in Asheville, NC and saw a lay I knew from Japan. Immediately her picture appeared in my mind. It was awful. I was in agony. The next day I drove 120 miles to apologize to that sister and said what I was supposed to say. We both were embarrassed. She obviously had been to a seminar and knew the line as well as I did. Forty years later I strongly feel what I did was a mistake. Another friend of mine had seriously wounded a girl five years previous;y. After he went to a seminar he went to the girl to apologize and only made the problem considerably worse.
But Bill Gothard was terrific. The only serious criticism I heard about him was that he had an almost cult like group of followers. In many many churches across America there were little groups of Gothardites. There was one in Rosemary's home church, the Burley Bible Church. I liked those folks. They were first-class Christians but they were pretty strong about talking everything Bill Gothard. In one sense you couldn't blame them. Basically I agreed with them but thought it would have been better to leave Bill Gothard out of the picture. He had a terrific impact on Boris Yeltsin who was PM of Russia. Yeltsin invited him to come to Russia and teach Russian officials about character building principles. Over the years he changed the name of his program from Basic Youth Conflicts to the Institute of Basic Life Principles (IBLP). Bill Gothard has been teaching his message for over 50 years and has centers all over the world.
I have heard criticism against him over the years but in most things they seemed to lack scriptural foundation. When Paul told me that he was charged with sexual misconduct I thought, “Great day! He mus be my age”. I was right. He is just a few month solder than me. But when I checked this out on Internet Friday night it was unbelievable. There are at least 34 women who have come forward to tell their stories of being sexual harassed by Gothard. He had to admit these charges were true and wrote a letter of confession and apology, and posted it on his website. The IBLP board of director called it disgusting. They might have used a stronger term. When I read that statement I too thought it was abdominal. It was only half true at best, and self-excusing. I find it hard to believe how a man of Bill Gothard's spiritual stature could write such a disgusting statement.
As stunned as I am over this scandal, it only confirms a principle I have long believed. I have long believed principles will not save you. Only Jesus can save. I heard of a Navigator missionary in Italy who was being harassed by unclean thoughts at night. To stop this, he developed and effective method of going through every room in his heart every night before going to sleep, and give the keys to every room to Jesus. He said by doing this, it stopped those bad thoughts. I thought, “Great, let's do it”. But I didn't find it 100% effective. When I first went to Karuizawa as a missionary I began having problem like I had never experienced in my life. My mind would be perfectly clear, but every night, the moment my head hit the pillow in bed it was just like X rated videos came on. Man, I mean to tell you they were real. I spoke to Joe Carroll about it, and he gave me some excellent advice. He said, “First of all, don't let the devil throw mud at you and them call you dirty.” Then we went on, “You don't have to put up with that. Simply speak to the devil and tell him to get out.” Great!!! The next night I tried it. The instant my head hit the pillow the video cam on. In an audible voice I said, “You filthy thing, in the Name of Jesus I command you to get out of here.” Bamb! The video quit. The next night I did the same thing. Bamb; that turned it off. But then ten minutes later it came back on again. Night after night the battle went on. After a few weeks it was like I had my finger on the Off switch and the devil had his finger on the On switch. One time I saw the sun come up the next morning as I had been fighting with the devil all night.
After many years of trying
all sorts of techniques to have victory and maintaining a clean
heart, I came to the conviction that there are no spiritual
principle that we can apply that will save us. I have found the
only actual salvation is by the person of Christ. Bill Gothard
has just proven my point. Here is a man who had the tightest
personal discipline I have ever heard of in my life. He has spent
over 50 years teaching millions the basic principles of life. You do
these things and you will have victory have a wonderful blessed life.
And yet for many years has been living in a dark closet life of
disgusting defeat. His life is a repudiation of his message of living
by principles. No mater how discipled a person might be, flesh will
always be flesh. Religious flesh is no better than depraved flesh.
The fox maybe very good in teaching Bible principles. but the fox is
a very poor custodian for the chickens. No one knew the message
better than Bil Gothard but his message did not save him from living
a closet life of sin.
When I read the tragic story of what happened to him, it makes me bewildered of why he should go down and I have been preserved from plunging to the deaths he fell to. I make no pretense of being totally victorious. I blush over the embarrassing struggles I have had over the years. I know proper principles but I have violated nearly all of them. In my travels around the Orient in the past 16 years I have been in some of the most harrowing situations and been the target of sexual predictors that are blood-chilling. How I could lay in the lap of such temptations and still come out clean is a bewilderment to angels and a disgrace to the devil. The ONLY expatriation of why I have come out marginally clean is JESUS. I certainly have not kept my garment clean by living by principles.
Another possible explanation is that Bill Gothard was a very high profile target. The Lord has told us that there is corresponding responsibility with high position. Teachers will have the greater judgment (Jm.3:1).
Bill Gothard certainly has been a very big man for 50 years. His contribution and impact on the Body of Christ was major. Millions have been greatly helped by him. Tens of thousands owe their salvation to him. His message was outstanding. There certainly is nothing wrong with the message of teaching basic principles of Christian living. There is nothing wrong with teaching someone that they should have devotions every day. There is nothing wrong with the message that we shroud be sensitive about seeking forgiveness and giving forgiveness I thought his instruction on raising Children and finances was excellent. The Body of Christ is greatly indebted to him for his message and teaching.
But teaching right and wrong will do nothing to equip a person to be a more righteous. The world has no other answer and must rely on this theory for improvement. Millions have proven that knowing there is poison in the bottle will keep a person from drinking. The government has spent untold millions on anti-tobacco ads, but people still smoke. Perhaps the greatest message Bill Gothard has given us and his legacy is that he has demonstrated that knowing the principle of Christian living will not save a person from living a hidden life of sin. Only Jesus saves. But I wonder if anyone is listening.
Miraculously still saved by the amazing grace of Jesus,
bill